On the other, he felt completely trapped. Mark was still accused of attempted murder, to which he ultimately pleaded guilty. This is a legal novelty in Britain, and very likely throughout the world. Next to it is the headline BOY STABBED. The boy - who is now 15 and can be referred to only as John for legal reasons - persuaded his friend, known as Mark, now 17, to stab him to death in order to pass a fictitious initiation test for the British secret services in a meticulously planned attack one Sunday evening last summer. "And so if you are talking about safety, that's one of the big dangers. "An unrequited-love story.". Mr Ross said: "The older boy thought he was talking to five or six different people when he was in fact talking to the younger boy all along.". He had "a buzz," he told one of the innumerable experts who would eventually interview him. A closed-circuit camera at the base of the alley had recorded all the foot traffic. At the end of May, the teenagers, their lawyers, and the press gathered in Judge Maddison's courtroom, where neither boy so much as glanced at the other. Belinda Sproston, of the parental control software firm CyberPatrol, said: "The conversations that these boys were having would not have been allowed in a monitored chatroom. Mark then grew close with her stepbrother John, even meeting up in person and hanging out. Ad Choices. Since seeing a psychologist, John's mother informed the court, John had been getting along nicely with her live-in companion. The teenager was with his friends when. He found he was never tired. Around 12:27 a.m. on Tuesday, Nov. 29, 2022, police said,. The house, which is estimated to be worth $400,000, lies in a slightly more prosperous neighborhood than the one inhabited by Mark's family, where each brick structure is an echo of its modest neighbor. It was then that Janet entered the chat room. "This case serves as a stark warning of the dangers of the dark side of the internet," Nicholas Clarke, prosecuting, told the court yesterday. A 44-year-old man was arrested in Kent on Friday night on. In fact, John was determined to get himself killed, which is why he never used the abort code - 6969 - that he provided. Thus, he concocted more than a half-dozen fantasy personas, four of them women. However much she screamed for u.". Want to bookmark your favourite articles and stories to read or reference later? It was she who ordered the teenager to carry out John's murder. The material on this site may not be reproduced, distributed, transmitted, cached or otherwise used, except with the prior written permission of Cond Nast. It was from this injury that the teenager almost died on the operating tabletwice, police tell me. Only a part of this amazing story was ever revealed to the British public. He doesn't think he will ever get married, much less have children. The older boy's gullible nature stirred in him conflicting emotions: love foremost, but very likely also a shade of contempt. School bullies who had previously targeted the younger boy? "To get him to do what 'they' wanted!". Earlier this month, a 15-year-old teenage boy was also stabbed to death in Walker Avenue, in Bolton, in another separate attack. And not just one. He might be talking about a particularly apt pupil. She was previously CEO of News International from 2009 to 2011 and was the youngest editor of a British national newspaper at News of the World, from 2000 to 2003, and the first female editor of The Sun, from 2003 . "This was a seemingly unprovoked attack," he told the media, which were directed to inform the public of the knife-wielding monster, "and we have no idea why this happened." Or, more anxiously, "Are you O.K.?" Shortly after her appearance, John suddenly emerged in the chat room as himself (saying that he was Rachel's brother), and these two were followed by still other fantastical alter egos equipped with wild backgrounds but dull, repetitive names: Lyndsey East, Rachel East, Kevin McGregory, Dave McNeil, Janet Dobinson. said. If the 14-year-old painstakingly arranged for his own execution in an MSN chat room and chose Mark for the job, it wasn't out of wickedness. With each passing day, the fantasy Janet was creating became even wilder, even more unbelievable, yet Mark did not question it. says Goldberg, John's lawyer. A third victim, Harold "Oink" Cook, age 39, survived a gunshot wound to his buttocks. "Your Lordship may think he would make a very good barrister." The trauma for him!" Invention was so easy, "the equivalent of taking heroin," John thought. At 13, upon receiving a laptop from his mother (a homework enhancer, she thought), John became a habitu of the Internet. "Everything was planned out the previous day," said DCI Ross. "Yes," came the reply. "It has to be big to stab him and make him bleed to death.". Nov. 29, 2022. Two of them ceased writing after meeting up with sorry fates: rape, murder, a coma, a baby born during the comaplot twists so messy and operatic that police had to provide themselves with stacks of names and huge piles of colored charts to sort things out. (As things turned out, John would never utter the abort code to Mark: "Well I knew that he had to do it because I sort of told him," he later told police.). Wot shud i say 2 him? As the boys disappeared into the alley, that camera swung around and followed them. Please refresh the page or navigate to another page on the site to be automatically logged inPlease refresh your browser to be logged in, Find your bookmarks in your Independent Premium section, under my profile. says Hogg, the police analyst. I didn't like it, I couldn't undo it, it was all fake, taking someone else in." A 17-year-old boy died after a horror street fight involving more than 100 people including some armed with 'machetes' on Saturday night (Saturday, September 4) in East London. A court order, citing the age of the culprits, would not permit any media outletincluding Vanity Fairto identify the boys and required every publication to use the pseudonyms "John" and "Mark." ", And so John crumpled, a drained, pallid figure muted forever, he thought, by the tall, light-haired boy he considered "perfect" and "out of my league.". Detective Chief Inspector Julian Ross of the Greater Manchester police force gazed at the mountains of chat-room printouts in utter dismay. As for himself, John was a virtual Scheherazade, a gifted fabricator. Offences of this kind under normal circumstances would result in an extremely lengthy custodial sentence, Judge David Maddison said, but these could not be described as any normal circumstances. The two were instead given supervision orders, John three years, Mark two. That same camera follows John whenever he revisits the scene of the crime. Boy B also admitted perverting the course of justice. "But these could not be described as any normal circumstances," the judge added. When investigators seized Marks computer they found over 58,000 lines of text within the chat room. the perpetually besotted Mark asked her. Police at the scene after a 16-year-old boy was fatally stabbed in Stretford, Manchester (Peter Byrne/PA) "He was just 16 and has been formally identified as Kennie Carter. Lyndsey East, who had briefly enchanted him and then disappeared without a word of good-bye, was John. "Look at how convincing these personalities are!" 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When the murder was completed, Mark would, Dobinson promised, be in very good hands: "I will be a 'detective superintendent.'". Sally Hogg, the police analyst, recalls that "there were 193 separate e-mail addresses" culled from the computers. Mark had even been given a codename, 47695, and been provided with an abort code, 6969, should the mission be cancelled. It all seemed quite unbelievable but for the impressionable and nave Mark, hed believed every twist and turn of the fantasy that had been created for him online. Sometimes John would approach their bedroom and listen quietly, his ear pressed to the door. And he would sit and read a book rather than talk with his friends," she revealed. Being middle-aged, she is "not with teenage talk," Dobinson admonishes Mark in the chat room, and she requests communication in more adult language. "Mark did it once, stood up, holding me, did it again," the victim told police. Dobinson had answers for everything. On the other hand, for whom exactly were Ross and his computer experts supposed to be looking? It wasn't John whom Mark loved, the boy knows. "I would say things that wouldn't make sense." Despite the devastating effect the ordeal had on Boy A, Mr Ross said he did He remembers sitting on the stairs of this more confined house, listening to his mother weeping in the living room. A murder investigation is underway after a 14-year-old boy was stabbed to death in a "ferocious attack." He was injured alongside his mother, 40, who is currently in hospital. The world he had known was John, written, produced, and directed by John. Mark once again obliged. A 16-year-old boy is 'lucky to be alive' after he was set upon by a group of strangers and stabbed inside Next at a popular Manchester shopping centre. An intricate web of deceit had been spun by the boy on the chatroom to recruit another teenager as his would-be killer. After months of analysis, detectives were able to establish that it was John who sent the final messages from his home computer on the night of 28 June 2003 and had planned his own murder. "Just wanted to be on the Internet, that's all that mattered." He seemed to have half expected their arrival. Both gangs are believed to have grown out of Manchester's notorious Gooch and Doddington outfits. Certainly not with his mother, who noticed that the more time her son spent online the more he was becoming "secretive" and snappish. Emergency services were called to the . "I haven't really thought about it," Mark replied. Then out. THE CAMBRIDGE GRAMMAR OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE Rodney Huddleston Geoffrey K. Pullum The Cambridge Grammar of the English Language The Cambridge Grammar of the English Language Rodney Huddleston Geoffrey K. Pullum in collaboration with Laurie Bauer Betty Birner Ted Briscoe Peter Collins David Denison David Lee Anita Mittwoch Geoffrey Nunberg Frank Palmer John Payne Peter Peterson Lesley Stirling . The court heard Boy B's actions were part of an "extraordinary suicide attempt". | "I was surprised Mark believed it all," John would later admit. John pleaded guilty to perverting the course of justice and incitement to murder. He, in turn, went to Judge Maddison. Mark was visibly shaken by what he just witnessed, telling the police he saw a hooded knifeman stab his friend, for no reason, before running off. And as far as the police could see, it hadn't occurred, at least not the way the older boy had said. A 15-year-old boy who died after he was stabbed in Miles Platting has been named by Greater Manchester police as Jakub Szymanski. Another element the teenagers had in common: a Webcam, which allowed them to view each other and any other chat-room member who had one of the cameras. It lies off Stamford New Road, close by a shopping mall in the prosperous Manchester suburb of Altrincham, where random stabbings simply don't occur. A 44-year-old man from Manchester was arrested in Kent on Friday evening. From four in the afternoon to seven in the morning, he typed his inventions into his laptop. You might be tsted on that later on. Certainly John possessed the determination and industry necessary for success. In the absence of factual press reports, John feels at liberty to craft, for the benefit of his girlfriend, fabulous new tales, starring himself. When he stopped going downstairs for meals, his slight frame shrank even further. "Boots," typed Dobinson, referring to a drugstore chain which sells many household articles, including, as it turns out, Sabatier kitchen knives. "Because he had the friendship with Rachel and Janet.". It is clear he doesn't have much sympathy for the boy whose brush with death prompted the unprecedented charge. And they shared his mission: to keep Mark perpetually in contact with their creator, John. School, despite his excellent grades, was equally desolate. Despite his mother's pleas, the teenager was put on a waiting list. 'Spy': well think please At which point, one local reporter informs me, "Everyone in the press put down their pens and pads." Precise details of the June 29 stabbing, down to the kitchen knife, appeared on the MSN chat-room site right up until one day before the crime, police noticed. wondered Mark. KROQ Weenie Roast is a multi-artist music concert, presented annually in May by the Los Angeles, California, modern rock radio station KROQ-FM.Since its beginning in 1993, it has been traditionally held on a Saturday in May or June, but due to the COVID-19 pandemic, there have been no editions of the festival since 2019. He was told that his reward would be money, a job as a British secret service agent and sex with the spy, whom he believed was a middle-aged woman. Other characters emerged and were killed off, one even came back from the dead. A 15-year-old boy has been hailed a "hero" by his family after he died amid reports he tried to step in and save his mother during a stabbing at a house. "The 14-year-old boy showed no intention to hurt anybody but himself," he But he could not say when the moment of enlightenment would have come for his friend. "I would say, of the two teenagers, John was the more wicked and more criminally culpable.". All of it? What happened to the Hatton Garden burglars? Credit: Family photo. It is a spasm of regret that goes unmentioned by police and lawyers alike in my conversations with them. He was infatuated with this woman. Credit: MEN Media. They had desires they expressed frankly, ardently, threateningly, as the occasion warranted. Boy A, who is now 17, was served with a two-year supervision order and is allowed no contact with Boy B. But once Mark began expressing interest in her as well, she, too, evaporated, ostensibly killed by the British government on April 27, 2003. But what could John do? Mark was given the number 47695 and ordered to "terminate" his friend. They then realised a number had used the same stylistic variation of the word maybe, writing it as mybye. "It's a hard life!" thats wot ur asking? A character's most improbable revelations would, inevitably, be confirmed by another. A man has been arrested on suspicion of murder after a boy was stabbed at a house in Manchester. ", About his bent for invention John was manifestly ambivalent. ", Practically everyone I speak to about this singular boy and his case demonstrates toward him a high level of antipathy, with the notable exception of Goldberg, who compares this story to Romeo and Juliet. Tales were told of instant transformations. "Mark must have known at some point that these characters were not real," he later told a therapist. That is what lies at the heart of this story. Disaster awaited one young female character, it was noticed, whenever a love-struck Mark attempted to rendezvous with her ("which could not happen due to her not existing," as David Boulger, a probation officer, crisply observed in his report). There was no reply to this question. "How cud I have been there when i didnt kno where she woz," the bewildered adolescent wrote back. His time online, however, began spiralling out of control. He added such offences would normally carry a lengthy jail sentence. "I'd stopped eating in March," he would later explain. A 16-year-old boy found with stab wounds in the street has died, prompting a murder inquiry. "Paki" and "gay" were some of the names hurled at himthe first because "I think my dad must have been Asian," the second "because most of my friends were girls." Two years ago, she found another companion, a plumber who moved in with them, and it seemed to John that this newcomer was receiving more attention than he was. The revelations that have leaked from Prince Harrys memoir. At the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean lay a "huge massive safe" containing "the worlds richest jewels." ]]> Mark had been fooled by John into believing he was working for the British secret services. "And that caused us some major concern," Ross says. Mark's worlduntil then packed mainly with soccer, passable grades, and admiring schoolgirlswas alight with these passionate intruders. Threads of plots, no matter how complicated or absurd, were never dropped. Undated family handout photo issued by Greater Manchester Police of 15-year-old Jakub Szymanski, known as Kuba to his family . He was the only child of working-class parents, well mannered and respectful, bound, he thought, for a local business college. To make matters worse, the police went out and arrested a shop assistant with the same name as one of the charactersonly, the poor girl was perfectly innocent. A 14-YEAR-OLD boy has been stabbed in the neck in front of horrified teachers and classmates at school. But the court was told that in reality Boy B had fallen in love with Boy A, conned him into performing sex acts on a webcam, and tricked him into stabbing him twice in Altrincham, Greater Manchester. This is the story of two ordinary Manchester teens whose extraordinary friendship led to one of the most unusual and bewildering criminal cases in British history. We finally saw that the last person to use the laptop at John's house [before the stabbing] was Janet Dobinson.". other middle-class family, and the word that keeps coming back to us is what a Odd that Dobinson used it. Sally Hogg went directly to the prosecutor with the news. The incident happened at a house on Bednal Avenue in Miles Platting at. That was how the child discovered that the man who had been living with his mother was not his father, as he had supposed. At first, the police thought the attack was committed by an adult robber described in precise details by Mark. Around the time of this incident, she slipped into her son's room and checked his laptop, where she found that Mark was a frequent on-screen presence. On one occasion, she asked him to get John out of school as his life was in danger. He misses him terribly, even while recognizing, as he puts it, "the friendship with Mark was fake." The teenager was attacked just before 4:30pm on Saturday on one of the busiest shopping days of the year.. 3 in the hierarchy of the British secret service, as she informs correspondents), on whom John clearly lavished special effort. "Staggering," said the judge who would hear his case. If Mark didnt complete the task Janet would lose her job and national security would be at risk. But that was because police had possession of the computers and were bound to find out about her anyway. "He didn't feel part of the family," his psychiatrist realized. "Shush. The next day, 29 June 2003, Boy A carried out Boy B's orders "to the letter", the court heard. January 13, 2004: New York, NY FKL. John's mother, a small, plump woman, who had experienced more than her share of life's anguish, felt a heightened sense of alarm. On Sunday 29 June 2003, Mark brought a kitchen knife under the pretence it was for his mother, carefully avoided the CCTV cameras Janet had warned him about and entered the alley with John. "The penny clickedand I won't forget itwhen we said, 'All right. John would later claim that Mark had declared him to be "like a brother"but, as it turned out, he was a lot more than that. Manchester. Mr Ross added: "We have not come across any underlying things that would turn a child to do Mark had initially fallen in love with Rachel, even though their attempts to meet up in real life had never worked out. "It is a tragic event that a 14-year-old boy would try to have someone kill him. His friend John marveled at such a trusting, suggestible nature. John would later concede that he knew exactly how much he had traumatized Mark by engineering the death of Rachel and permitting the ostensible killer to describe her last moments to Mark himself: "Kicked all her stomach. Nor do the multiple therapists appear to have noticed it.). Just before 8pm on Sunday 29 June 2003, the police were called to a stabbing that had taken place down an alley behind a row of shops in Altrincham, a town in Greater Manchester. Posing as the spy on the internet, and promising him sex and cash, Boy B sent messages to Boy A to stab him to death. "Could you stab someone?" In the meantime, Dobinson added, Mark was to make sure to buy the right type of knife. Of these invented creatures, the most passionate and durable was the high-ranking spy Dobinson. When the sentence came down, Mark winked at his mother, and Sally Hogg, whose work had uncovered the degree of his manipulation by John, wept for the duller, more susceptible boy. this sort of thing. About these taunts, which were ceaseless in elementary school, he said nothing to anyone. AETNUK All Rights Reserved. "Skilled writers of fiction would struggle to conjure up a plot such as that Crime news across America. He did reasonably well at school, although he wasn't the most academic person. He stabbed him twice, once in the stomach and once in the chest and then waited 20 minutes before calling the police. "He said if he had not created Rachel, then Mark would not have wanted to get close to him," Dr. Kirsty Smedley, a Manchester psychologist, wrote after interviewing John subsequent to his arrest. Even though, thanks to the Internet, anyone who wishes can access all relevant information. The final internet chatroom exchange took place on 28 June last year. Brilliant. In July last year, Mark was charged with attempted murder. A simulated graphic showing the real conversation transcript between John (14) and Mark (16) | Image: Shutterstock.com, This shared psychotic disorder usually involves one dominant person convincing the other of their beliefs, Ben Field plied his lover with drugs to make him think he was going mad in a campaign of mental torture. that's wot ur askin me?" Hogg recalls that the boy "brought into play different people whom we would later find. Indefatigably. A few days later, however, the case took a surprise turn. To prevent such tragedy, Mark was told, he had to perform sexual tasks in view of the Webcam to gratify the stalker himself. Detectives launched a murder inquiry after a mother and son were both stabbed at a house in Miles. Apparently a girl named Rachel had signed in to the chat room initially. His motive? "That was the stumbling point for me. Less than 24 hours later, a 14-year-old boy was critically ill in hospital with stab wounds in the chest and stomach. The boy - who is now 15 and can be referred to only as John for legal reasons - persuaded his friend, known as Mark, now 17, to stab him to death in order to pass a fictitious initiation test for. "He said he'd done it because he'd heard voices." Then Mark should call an ambulancebut "not st8 away." Police. Perhaps it was "warped" to spend so much time in chat rooms, he reflected, sleepless and typing ceaselessly. John had created the fantasy that led to his own stabbing. But this time John also was chargedwith inciting murder. Not a spelling or grammatical error, Hogg decided. But yesterday the young "victim" became the first person in this country to be convicted of inciting their own murder. 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